SAU 6 Board — September 22, 2020

Meeting summary generated from the Claremont Community Television recording and its speaker-attributed transcript; no agenda, packet or minutes for this meeting are posted in the district's online shares. The joint Claremont and Unity board, several members on video, adopted three SAU policies by roll call (drug-free workplace without its medical-marijuana clause, the chair's duties, and public comment), entered a nonpublic session on the employee-matters exemption, sealed its minutes, and only afterward told the public that the exemption it had cited was wrong and the subject was a tuition contract with the Goshen School District. Timestamps link to the same moment in the Cablecast recording.

Body
SAU 6 Board (Claremont and Unity school boards meeting jointly)
Date
Tuesday, September 22, 2020 (the chair calls "the September 22nd" meeting to order, 0:00:17)
Start time
Scheduled time not stated in any available record. The chair calls the meeting to order "at 632" [6:32 p.m.] (0:00:17). Nonpublic session entered by roll call from 0:25:38; streaming turned off at 0:27:27; public session resumes at 0:29:50. Adjourned by roll call at 0:38:52. The dialogue file runs to 0:39:51.
Location
Not stated in any available notice or agenda. The chair, clerk and superintendent were in the room; Shannon Popescu ("She's online", 0:01:09), Frank Sprague and Carolyn Towle took part by video.
Recording
Cablecast: SAU 6 School Board Meeting 9/22 (dialogue file runs 0:39:51; the nonpublic session is not recorded)
Minutes
None located in the district's public shares: neither Drive share reaches back before July 2022 (MAP.md, checked 9/26/26). The board approves the minutes of its June 23, 2020 meeting at 0:03:02, "in our packet", so minutes and a packet existed.
Board composition
Twelve members: seven from Claremont, five from Unity. Claremont: Michael Petrin (SAU 6 chair), Frank Sprague, Heather Whitney, Rebecca Zullo, Jason Benware, Rob Lovett Jr., Carolyn Towle. Unity: Marjorie Erickson (Unity chair), Shannon Popescu, Rocco Ruggeri, John Dempsey (new, "two meetings ago"), Gary Bader. The clerk records Bader absent ("Gary Vader is not here.", 0:24:28). Zullo is not audible in the opening roll but votes from 0:21:36.

Participants

Everyone in the record, as named in the dialogue CSV. No agenda or minutes are available to confirm spellings; spellings follow the project roster, and the transcript's renderings are given where they differ. Diarization on this recording is poor: many roll-call answers are Unidentified. Hover over (or Tab to) a clipped entry for the full text.
NameRoleParticipation
Michael PetrinSAU 6 chair (Claremont)Presided. The dialogue file attributes to him the motions on the agenda, the June 23 minutes and the nonpublic session; moved the seal; corrected the nonpublic citation afterward (0:30:41); collects the superintendent evaluations (0:32:29). His voice cluster also absorbs other members' replies (see the footer). Rendered "My teacher", "Mike. Petra" and "my paycheck".
Marjorie EricksonMember (Unity), Unity board chairGave the Unity report: full-time school since August 31, teacher contract talks begun, new member Dempsey (0:05:16); asked to move SAU meetings to Thursdays (0:35:39). Rendered "Manager Erickson" and "Barry Erickson".
Shannon PopescuMember (Unity), remoteBrief remark on Unity youth sports (0:07:25); attribution low-medium, on one cue. Rendered "Shannon. Castillo" and "Shannon. Peskin".
Rocco RuggeriMember (Unity)Called in roll calls as "Rocco or Jerry" and "rock over. Jerry"; no row is attributed to him.
John DempseyMember (Unity), newWelcomed as new (0:07:10); named in roll calls; no row is attributed to him.
Gary BaderMember (Unity)Absent per the clerk (0:24:28). Rendered "Gary Vader".
Heather WhitneyMember (Claremont), Claremont vice chairGave the Claremont update at the chair's invitation, "Heather, you're vice chair." (0:04:07, 0:04:23); asked how misuse of prescribed medication is handled (0:13:53).
Frank SpragueMember (Claremont), Claremont chair, remoteAsked whether the drug-free workplace policy applies only to SAU employees (0:17:23). Rendered "Frank. Spread".
Jason BenwareMember (Claremont)Argued that out-of-state medical marijuana users should not be disciplined (0:12:15) and moved to strike the clause (0:14:47). Attribution medium; his rows sit inside the chair's voice cluster. Rendered "Jason. Benoit" and "Jason Benwell".
Rob Lovett Jr.Member (Claremont)Supported removing the clause as making the SAU "more competitive" (0:13:36). Attribution medium-low. Rendered "Rob. Beloved junior" and "I love it. Junior".
Rebecca ZulloMember (Claremont)Seconded two policies; organized the superintendent-evaluation subgroup meeting (0:35:16). Rendered "Rebecca. Zula".
Carolyn TowleMember (Claremont), remoteNamed in roll calls, frozen at times (0:22:03); asked to return to the evaluations (0:33:19, unidentified voice). Rendered "Carolyn told", "Marilyn. Joel" and "Carolyn. Tall".
Michael TempestaSuperintendent, SAU 6Superintendent's report on school openings in Unity and Claremont (0:07:50); supported striking the marijuana clause (0:14:06); reported the Goshen tuition agreement (0:31:26).
Mary WoodmanSchool district clerk and recording secretaryCalled the roll and the roll-call votes.
Unidentified staffPolicy drafter (not established)Explained the edits to policies ADB and BEDH (0:11:53, 0:22:42); possibly the clerk or an SAU staff member.
Unidentified technicianBroadcast operator"So, Mike, I've turned off streaming. I'm not recording." (0:27:27).

Order of business (reconstructed)

No agenda for this meeting is posted in any district share, so this list is reconstructed from the chair's transitions. The chair refers to "an agenda in front of us" and a packet. No public comment period was called; none was required by statute in 2020. Hover over (or Tab to) a clipped entry for the full text.

Taken upItemAgenda text / disposition
0:00:17Call to order, roll call, pledgeCalled to order at 6:32 p.m.; roll from 0:01:01; the pledge, skipped at first, follows at 0:02:14.
0:02:32AgendaThe chair: "I need a motion. A move that we accept the agenda as presented." Unidentified second; voice vote (0:02:51).
0:03:02Minutes of June 23, 2020Moved by the chair (0:03:10); unidentified second (0:03:20); voice vote (0:03:41).
0:03:57Update from the Claremont School BoardWhitney on the full-reopening work, to be discussed "in detail tomorrow".
0:04:56Update from the Unity boardErickson; Popescu on youth sports.
0:07:50Superintendent's reportOpenings in Unity (new principal Susan Schroeder) and Claremont (hybrid); September 11 ceremony; Unity town meeting.
0:11:37Policy ADB, drug-free workplace (third read)Benware moved the policy striking the medical-marijuana clause (0:14:47); roll call from 0:18:23; no "no" audible.
0:19:56Policy BBBH-S, roles and duties of the board chairpersonMoved after the chair recognizes "Jason" (the row is labelled for the chair); Zullo second (0:20:23); roll call (0:20:48).
0:22:31Policy BEDH, public comment and participationAdopted with the closing sentence asking speakers to "strive to adhere to ordinary norms of decorum and stability [civility], and to be concise and to the point" (0:23:28); mover not established; Zullo second (0:23:38); roll call (0:24:19).
0:25:38Nonpublic sessionThe chair moved nonpublic under RSA 91-A:3, II(a), reading the exemption's text; no second audible; roll call (0:26:15). Streaming off (0:27:27).
0:29:50Seal; corrected citationMotion to seal the nonpublic minutes; roll call. The chair then corrects the exemption to "RSA 91A32K" [II(k)], "Contracts to the regarding the Goshen School District" (0:30:41).
0:31:36Future agenda items; superintendent evaluationEvaluation forms to be emailed to the chair; subgroup to meet October 14 at 6:30 (0:37:27). Next SAU 6 meeting Thursday, October 22 (0:36:44).
0:38:33AdjournmentMotion and Zullo second (0:38:39); roll call by the chair (0:38:52).

Discussion timeline

Chronological, from the dialogue CSV. Times are the start of the cited exchange, taken from the CSV's own second count. Hover over (or Tab to) a clipped cell for the full entry.

TimeTopicWhat was saidFlags
0:00:17Opening"Sue school board meeting to order at 632" [SAU]. Roll: Erickson; Shannon "She's online" (0:01:09); Rocco; Dempsey; Sprague; Benware; Lovett; Whitney; Towle.
0:02:32Agenda and June minutes by voiceBoth approved by "All in favor?" with members on video; the dialogue file attributes both motions to the chair.MEDIUM
0:04:23Claremont updateWhitney: "Claremont School board is primarily grappling with how we are going to reach the full open model." (see the September 23 page).
0:05:16Unity updateErickson: "So we've now been going, what, two and a half weeks."; "We are starting teacher negotiations, teacher contract negotiations." (0:05:44); "We have John Dempsey with us who just joined us two meetings ago." (0:06:40).
0:07:50Superintendent's report"Great transition from the principal ship to Susan Schroeder" at Unity (0:08:13); dividers "made here by the by the prisoners" (0:08:59); the Claremont presentation is deferred to "tomorrow" (0:10:09).
0:11:53Drug-free workplace policyBenware: "it's very difficult to tell if somebody smokes pot." the day before (0:12:15); discipline for legal out-of-state use "doesn't seem reasonable to me" (0:13:05). Lovett: removal "not only makes us more competitive" (0:13:36). Tempesta: "being so close to Vermont. It's a disadvantage" (0:14:06). Chair: "So I would just strike out the including employees possessing a medical marijuana card." (0:16:00). Sprague confirms it covers SAU employees only (0:17:23).POSITIVE
0:19:56Chair's duties policyBBBH-S adopted by roll call without discussion.POSITIVE
0:22:31Public comment policyBEDH: wording settled on the floor to combine decorum with being "concise and to the point" (0:23:28); adopted by roll call.POSITIVE
0:25:38Into nonpublicThe chair moves nonpublic under RSA 91-A:3, II(a), reading "the dismissal, promotion or compensation of any public employee or the disciplining of such employee"; roll call. "So, Mike, I've turned off streaming. I'm not recording." (0:27:27).MEDIUM
0:29:50Seal and correction"That we sailed in the meeting minutes of the nonpublic for 76 years." [sealed; the figure is as transcribed]; roll call. Then: "I said the wrong RSA, so I'd like to correct that. The correct RSA is RSA 91A32K. Contracts to the regarding the Goshen School District." (0:30:41). Tempesta: "The tuition agreement was closed pending further south by 22." (0:31:26).MEDIUM
0:31:44Superintendent evaluationsForms were due tonight; "Do they need names on them or no names. No I agree. No names." (0:32:10). Chair to remote members: "if you guys could email those to me, I'm gonna, I guess, put it all together." (0:32:29). Subgroup (with Whitney and Zullo) to meet October 14 at 6:30, possibly "here" (0:37:47).OBSERVATION
0:35:39Future meetingsErickson: "we used to meet on Thursdays for the saw, so I wouldn't mind going back to that."; next SAU 6 meeting Thursday, October 22; "the next Claremont School board meetings tomorrow night, 923 on Jason's birthday" (0:38:02).
0:38:41Adjournment by roll call"I guess I got a roll call that as well"; the chair calls the names himself.

Items flagged for review

Flags are a reviewer's aid generated by comparing the meeting against the law in force on September 22, 2020. They are not findings of violation, and nothing here is legal advice. Each flag cites the rule it rests on; where no verified rule applies, the flag says so and is recorded as an observation. Ordered by severity.

MEDIUM The board voted to go nonpublic on the employee-matters exemption, discussed a Goshen tuition contract, sealed the minutes with no statutory finding stated, and corrected the exemption only afterward

At 0:25:38 the chair moved to enter nonpublic session under RSA 91-A:3, II(a), reading its text aloud ("the dismissal, promotion or compensation of any public employee or the disciplining of such employee"), and the board voted by roll call. After the session he moved to seal the minutes ("That we sailed in the meeting minutes of the nonpublic for 76 years.", 0:29:50; the duration is as transcribed and may be garbled), again by roll call. Only then did he say: "I said the wrong RSA, so I'd like to correct that. The correct RSA is RSA 91A32K. Contracts to the regarding the Goshen School District." (0:30:41).

As in force in 2020, RSA 91-A:3, I(b) provided that "Any motion to enter nonpublic session shall state on its face the specific exemption under paragraph II which is relied upon as foundation for the nonpublic session." The motion the members voted on stated II(a), not the tuition-contract ground. Paragraph II(k) covers "Consideration by a school board of entering into a student or pupil tuition contract authorized by RSA 194 or RSA 195-A" and adds that a negotiated contract "shall be made public prior to its consideration for approval by a school district, together with minutes of all meetings held in nonpublic session". Paragraph III allows minutes to be withheld only if, "by recorded vote of 2/3 of the members present taken in public session, it is determined" that disclosure would harm a person's reputation, render the action ineffective, or concern terrorism, and then only "until, in the opinion of a majority of members, the aforesaid circumstances no longer apply". The seal motion on the recording states no such determination and gives a fixed term instead; and a decades-long seal sits awkwardly with II(k)'s requirement that nonpublic minutes about a tuition contract be made public before the contract is approved. Whether II(k), written for "a school board", reaches the SAU board is a further question this page does not resolve.

Mitigation: the chair corrected the citation himself, in public, the same night, and the superintendent described the subject (0:31:26). Graded MEDIUM, consistent with corpus pages that grade a seal without a stated finding MEDIUM; the minutes, which might record a finding, are not posted.

Sources: RSA 91-A:3, I(b), II(a), II(k) and III (2019 codification; source note ends 2016, 30:1 and 280:1, text in force in 2020).

MEDIUM With members on video, the agenda and the June 23 minutes were approved by voice vote

Shannon Popescu was online (0:01:09) and Frank Sprague and Carolyn Towle took part by video. The agenda (0:02:51) and the June 23 minutes (0:03:41) were each approved on "All in favor?" with no roll call. From the policies onward every vote was a roll call, the chair noting "We need a roll call for this" (0:16:31). As in force in 2020, RSA 91-A:2, III(e) provided: "All votes taken during such a meeting shall be by roll call vote." Governor Sununu's Emergency Order #12 waived only the requirement that a quorum be physically present (III(b)); it did not waive III(e). Graded MEDIUM as a probable process gap, lower than a corpus page where most votes, including substantive ones, were by voice; both voice votes here were routine and the remaining six were roll calls.

Sources: RSA 91-A:2, III(e) (2019 codification; source note ends 2018, 244:1); Emergency Order #12 (March 23, 2020): waives the physical-quorum requirement only.

OBSERVATION The superintendent's evaluation was gathered by email to the chair and handed to a subgroup meeting on October 14, which has no public record in the project's sources

Members were to hand in evaluation forms that night, without names (0:32:10); remote members were asked to "email those to me" so the chair could "put it all together" (0:32:29). A subgroup including Whitney and Zullo was to meet October 14 at 6:30 (0:37:47) before the October 22 board meeting. A subgroup of a public body is itself a public body under RSA 91-A:1-a, VI(d) ("or any committee, subcommittee, or subordinate body thereof, or advisory committee thereto"), so its meeting needed notice and minutes. RSA 91-A:2-a, II bars using communications outside a meeting "to circumvent the spirit and purpose" of the chapter; collecting forms by email is not itself deliberation, and nothing on the recording shows members discussing the evaluation by email. No recording, notice or minutes of an October 14, 2020 meeting are in the corpus or MAP.md. Recorded as an observation about the public record, not a finding.

Sources: RSA 91-A:1-a, VI(d) (source note ends 2008, 354:1); RSA 91-A:2-a, II (source 2008, 303:4, unamended).

OBSERVATION No agenda, packet or minutes for this meeting are posted online; several movers and seconders are not identifiable on the recording

MAP.md records that neither district Drive share holds anything before July 2022 (checked 9/26/26); the June 23 minutes approved here came "in our packet" (0:03:02), so a packet and minutes existed. In 2020 RSA 91-A:2, II required minutes open to public inspection "not more than 5 business days after the meeting" and recording the members "who made or seconded each motion". On this recording the seconds to the agenda and minutes, the mover of the public-comment policy and any second to the nonpublic and seal motions cannot be identified, so only the minutes can supply them. The limb of the project's missing-records rule applied is the online-availability observation.

Sources: RSA 91-A:2, II (2019 codification; text in force in 2020); Input/SupportingDocuments/MAP.md section 130.

POSITIVE Three policies adopted on third reading by named roll call, one of them a public-comment policy two years before the law required comment periods; the nonpublic session was taken off the stream

Policies ADB, BBBH-S and BEDH were each moved, seconded and adopted by roll call (0:18:23, 0:20:48, 0:24:19) after a third reading, with the drug-free workplace change debated and its effect on SAU employees only confirmed on the record (0:17:23). BEDH, the public comment and participation policy, was adopted in September 2020; RSA 189:74 did not require a public comment period at school board meetings until September 2022. Entry to nonpublic session was by roll call as RSA 91-A:3, I(b) requires, and the operator confirmed that streaming was off (0:27:27).

Sources: RSA 91-A:3, I(b) (2019 codification); RSA 189:74 (2022, 333:1, eff. Sept. 6, 2022): not in force in 2020.

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