Claremont School Board, November 29, 2017

Budget study session at which the seven members, without administrators, went line by line through the first-draft FY2019 budget, building a list of questions for the business administrator, and then went into a nonpublic session for "personnel". The page is built from the CCTV recording's dialogue transcript; no agenda, packet or minutes survive in the district's online shares. Timestamps link to the same moment in the Cablecast recording.

Body
Claremont School Board (Claremont School District, SAU 6), sitting as a budget study session
Date
Wednesday, November 29, 2017 (scheduled at the November 15 meeting for 6:30 p.m. that day)
Start time
6:30 p.m. as scheduled on November 15; the recording opens with the call to order at 0:00:14. A five-minute break is called at 2:06:51. The board moves into nonpublic session at 2:47:28, and the recording is shut off at the start of it (2:47:51); no return to public session or adjournment is recorded.
Location
Not stated in available records. On November 15 the superintendent placed the session at that meeting's location; here a member, discussing a tech center program, says “This is in this building.” (1:15:07), which points to the Sugar River Valley Regional Technical Center.
Recording
Cablecast: SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 11-29-17 (dialogue transcript runs 2:48:21; it ends as the nonpublic session begins)
Minutes
None located. MAP.md records no Drive material for this meeting: neither district share holds a year folder older than 2022, and the Meeting Minutes share starts at 2023 (checked 9/26/26).
Board composition
Seven seats, all filled. The chair calls roll as “Everybody's here.” (0:00:54) without reading names; members address Alex [Herzog] and Mike [Petrin] during the session (0:50:12, 1:32:30), so all seven appear to have been present. No administrators attended, by the board's choice on November 15.

Participants

Names follow the project's 2015-2023 roster and attribution report; no minutes exist to confirm spellings or attendance. District employees named in the budget lines are described by position, not named.
NameRoleParticipation
Brian RappChairPresides; adds public comment to the agenda; explains past cuts, budget freezes and fund balance; calls the motion for the nonpublic session. Says he “wasn't here for the discussion about when this meeting was scheduled” (0:03:02).
Chris IrishVice chairKeeps the master spreadsheet of questions and will send it to the business administrator; argues the board's authority is the bottom line, not staffing decisions.
Michelle PierceMemberRaises many lines where budgeted amounts exceeded actual spending; moves the nonpublic session.
Frank SpragueMemberLeads the Stevens High School review; finds duplicate salary lines and asks about new positions and full-year staff.
Rebecca ZulloMemberRaises transparency about positions the board was not told of; asks about school board line items; keeps a separate list of questions.
Dr. Alex HerzogMemberAddressed by name (0:50:12); no speech is attributed to him with confidence (the CSV leaves two at-the-table voices unidentified).
Michael PetrinMember (attribution low confidence)Four short rows, including “No, no.” when asked if he has more on the high school (1:20:48).
UnidentifiedBoard members (two voices)One explains a TSA line as a tax-sheltered annuity match (1:19:12); not separable between Herzog and Petrin.
Public comment: opened at 0:02:08 and closed at 0:02:34 with no speaker.

Order of business (reconstructed)

No agenda survives. The chair refers to “And we have our agenda.” (0:01:00); the items below follow his transitions.

Items in the order taken up, with dispositions heard on the recording
Taken upItemDisposition
0:00:14Call to order; pledge; rollRoll taken as “Everybody's here.”
0:01:00AgendaZullo asks for a nonpublic session at the end: “RSA 9183 personnel.” [RSA 91-A:3]. The chair: “it isn't there, but I'm going to add public comment.” Approved as amended on Pierce's motion, voice vote (0:01:58).
0:02:08Public commentNo speakers.
0:02:34Discussion: [FY20]19 budgetLine-by-line review: Stevens High School and the tech center (0:54:46), the middle school (1:21:10), Bluff (1:32:55), Maple Avenue and Disnard (2:15:32), district-wide and school board lines (2:32:58). No votes.
2:45:03Process for the question listIrish to send one spreadsheet to the business administrator (flag 3).
2:47:28Nonpublic sessionThe chair: “With that I need a motion for nonpublic.” Pierce: “I'd like to make a motion to go into nonpublic.” The chair adds “For personnel.” A second is noted; no vote is heard before the recording is shut off (flag 1).

Discussion timeline

Times are taken from the dialogue transcript (Dialogue/9470 SchoolBoard112917.mp4.CSV) and link into the recording.

Topics in order; hover or focus a summary to expand it
TimeTopicWhat was saidFlags
0:01:33Public comment addedThe chair adds public comment to an agenda that lacked it; no one speaks (0:02:34).POSITIVE
0:03:32How to proceedSprague proposes starting at the high school this year, and recalls the superintendent saying a second year of cuts “we would have to be looking at personnel”; “we have not received any recommendations from the administration based on the constraints that we put on the administration around data driven staff reductions.” He proposes a class-capacity (saturation) study (0:06:54).
0:11:57Last year's Saturday sessionIrish: “we had our Saturday session, we came up with our thoughts and then we got together.” and the board “found a ton of stuff they hadn't even thought of”.
0:12:57Comparisons and affordabilityIrish compares Claremont's per-pupil cost with similar districts but argues the question is what the community can afford. Rapp: last year's budget was cut “75,000” while the tax rate rose because revenues changed.
0:17:39The directive, from two who were absentPierce: “you guys had a meeting and Brian and I unfortunately were not part of that.” The administration “came back with a 1.7 million increase”; she wants special education reviewed.
0:20:18Technology in the budget or a warrant articleRapp: technology has been kept in the operating budget because “A warrant is sort of a hit or miss.” Irish would consider putting a disputed item on the ballot: “Let the voters have that say.”
0:22:36Consolidating the elementary schoolsA new high school would have cost about $42 million and “We don't have the bonding capacity.” Pierce estimates “$5 million less a year if we consolidated”; Irish: real tax relief requires consolidation.
0:26:44Which draftMembers work from a draft dated 11/15; Irish has one the business administrator sent dated 11/29 (0:26:48).
0:27:03Duplicate salary linesA paraprofessional appears twice: “we just found $16,584.75 in a typo error of a double on a paraprofessional.” A truant officer's salary is also listed twice, “Nine $39,802.” Sprague: “Maybe he found this error already. Maybe not.”OBSERVATION
0:30:36Positions that changedSprague questions a truant officer now full time, curriculum specialist positions that replaced a single curriculum director (“So it looks like we've taken one job and split it into three.”), a nurse now listed as a program assistant, and an added secretary at the high school (0:46:54).OBSERVATION
0:38:49Full-year staffSprague proposes reviewing which non-teaching staff work the full year, recalling his earlier proposal to put both middle school assistant principals on 220-day contracts (0:39:29).
0:48:20Hires the board did not seeZullo: “sometimes there's been people hired since I've been on the board that we haven't approved well, even known about.” Irish: “I think they were restructured. If they were, we don't have any say in that.” Rapp disagrees (0:50:36); Irish: “Our job is not to micromanage.”OBSERVATION
0:54:46Stevens High School linesLines where actual spending ran well under budget, guidance dues and fees, student activity fees and the senior celebration (1:02:53), which Irish says he is “used to student activities being money that's raised by fundraising and put in a separate account, not in the budget.”
1:13:52Money moved between linesIrish: money “could have very well spent that money on a different line item somewhere else”. Rapp credits the business administrator with “fixing a lot of fairness” [errors] in misplaced lines. Pierce tallies “almost $90,000 in just 4 or 5 different things”.
1:22:23Special education paraprofessionalsMembers ask whether every special education paraprofessional serves a student's IEP and is Medicaid-reimbursable; Irish: “Just middle school alone is almost $300,000 in Paris.” [paras]
1:44:37The absent business administratorPierce: “Mike, I hope you're watching this so that you can.” Rapp explains grant money appears as both expense and revenue (1:44:39).
2:04:37Budget freezes and fund balanceRapp on unspent lines: “that's what a budget freeze will look like though”; unspent money “All goes into fund balance. It doesn't just disappear.” Irish: “we actually pay taxes on it that we didn't necessarily have to spend”.
2:06:51BreakFive-minute break; the review resumes at 2:07:42.
2:08:14Bus driversMembers count about 17 driver salaries and ask what drivers do between routes.
2:32:58School board linesZullo: of the school board line, “what was spent out of this was 160,000 169,000”; she questions some charges, including a deli bill that members connect to a mediation day (2:35:59). Rapp: “we're not going to be in negotiations with the teachers for two years.” Meeting notices are advertised in the newspaper (2:37:31).
2:43:22Technology contracting downIrish: technology contracted services fell from “120,700. It is now budgeted at 48,000.” “Expanding the IT department has absolutely done what we hoped it did.”
2:45:03Sending the questionsIrish will circulate the spreadsheet, take members' additions by email, and send it once he has “everybody's blessing by like tomorrow night”; “I'll copy everybody in because it's informational. Just don't go back and forth.”OBSERVATION
2:45:54Joint meeting with the City CouncilIrish confirms the December joint meeting with the council is cancelled until the budget is done (2:46:21).
2:47:28Nonpublic sessionMotion “Personnel hearing for personnel.”; the chair: “So we have a motion who was seconded.” and “And just write it down.” Then: “Just tell him to shut off. Yeah, he just shut off.”HIGH

Items flagged for review

These flags are a reviewer's aid, not findings of violation and not legal advice. Each one names the rule it rests on, as that rule read on November 29, 2017, or is labeled an observation where no verified rule applies.

HIGH Nonpublic session entered "for personnel", with no exemption cited and no vote heard

RSA 91-A:3, I(b), in the text in force for 2017, requires that "Any motion to enter nonpublic session shall state on its face the specific exemption under paragraph II", and that the vote be a recorded roll call. The motion at 2:47:31 is “I'd like to make a motion to go into nonpublic.”, completed by the chair's “For personnel.” and the mover's “Personnel hearing for personnel.” "Personnel" is not a paragraph II ground; the statute's employee-related grounds are II(a) (dismissal, promotion, compensation or discipline of an employee) and II(b) (hiring), and reputation is II(c). The chair then notes “So we have a motion who was seconded.” and the recording is shut off (2:47:51) with no roll call heard. Mitigation: when the session was added to the agenda, the mover cited “RSA 9183 personnel.” (0:01:23), which reads as RSA 91-A:3 but still names no paragraph. If a roll call was taken after the camera stopped, it was not public in any surviving form, and no minutes exist (flag 2) to show the vote, the ground or any decision; RSA 91-A:3, III required nonpublic minutes and decisions to be disclosed within 72 hours unless sealed by a recorded two-thirds vote.

Sources: RSA 91-A:3, I(b), II(a)-(c), III (2016 codification; source note ends 2016, 30:1, eff. Jan. 1, 2017)

MEDIUM No agenda, notice or minutes for this session survive in any district share

A budget study session of the full board is a meeting under RSA 91-A:2, I (a convening of a quorum to discuss matters within its jurisdiction), and the 2017 text of RSA 91-A:2, II required notice 24 hours ahead and minutes including "the names of members, persons appearing before the public bodies, and a brief description of the subject matter discussed and final decisions", "open to public inspection not more than 5 business days after the meeting". MAP.md records no Drive material for this meeting: the district's shares hold no year folder older than 2022, and the Meeting Minutes share starts at 2023. This page applies the MEDIUM limb of the project's severity rule because the record mitigates the gap: the superintendent said on November 15 that he would post the session, and the board was producing minutes at the time (it approved the November 1 minutes on November 15). The gap still matters: the recording stops at the nonpublic session, so its business is unrecorded anywhere (flag 1).

Sources: RSA 91-A:2, I-II (2016 codification; source note ends 2016, 29:1, eff. Jan. 1, 2017); November 15, 2017 page

OBSERVATION Members' sign-off on the question list was to be gathered by email

The vice chair proposed to circulate the spreadsheet, take each member's additions by email, and send it to the business administrator once he had “everybody's blessing by like tomorrow night” (2:46:25). He framed it as information only: “I'll copy everybody in because it's informational. Just don't go back and forth.” (2:46:50). RSA 91-A:2-a, I requires public bodies to deliberate "only in meetings", and ¶II provides that communications outside a meeting, "including, but not limited to, sequential communications among members", shall not be used to circumvent the chapter. Exchanging information is permitted; collecting every member's approval of a list the board will put to the administration is closer to the line, because the approval is a collective decision. The instruction against back-and-forth shows awareness of the rule. Whether any approval was in fact exchanged by email is not on the record.

Sources: RSA 91-A:2-a, I-II (2016 codification; source note 2008, 303:4)

OBSERVATION The first-draft budget carried two duplicated salary lines

Members found a paraprofessional listed twice (“$16,584.75 in a typo error of a double on a paraprofessional”, 0:27:53) and a truant officer's salary listed twice at “39 802.44” (0:32:25), together about $56,387 of apparent overstatement in the draft. Members were also working from two different versions of the draft, dated 11/15 and 11/29 (0:26:44), and could not tell whether the later one had already corrected the errors (0:26:57). The business administrator was not present to answer. No rule is cited; the point is the reliability of the figures on which the $1.2 million directive was being measured, and whether the corrected draft removed both lines would be shown in the December budget documents.

Sources: Dialogue/9470 SchoolBoard112917.mp4.CSV (rows 183 to 239)

OBSERVATION Members say positions were created or changed without the board's knowledge

Reviewing the payroll lines, members questioned a truant officer position now full time, a curriculum director's role split into three specialist positions (0:35:10), a nurse relisted as a program assistant (0:37:49) and an added high school secretary (0:46:54). Zullo: “we didn't get told about another secretary to the high school.” (0:49:46). Irish said of restructured positions “we don't have any say in that”, and “we legally we don't have any” [say beyond the total]; Rapp disputed that the board had been kept uninformed (0:50:36). The statute that does give the board a say is RSA 189:39: "Superintendents shall nominate and school boards elect all teachers". It covers teachers, not secretaries, nurses or coordinators, so the positions named here are not, on the record, a breach. The board's other lever is the budget it adopts, which is what this session was using.

Sources: RSA 189:39 (source note ends 1971, 371:2; the same text governs 2017)

POSITIVE Public comment added to a work-session agenda that lacked it

The agenda for this study session had no public comment period. The chair added one on his own initiative: “it isn't there, but I'm going to add public comment.” (0:01:33), and opened it before any business (0:02:08). In 2017 no statute required a school board to take public comment; RSA 189:74's 30-minute rule dates from 2022, 333:1, eff. Sept. 6, 2022. The session was also held on camera although the board described it as a work session, which is what RSA 91-A requires of any convening of a quorum to discuss board business.

Sources: RSA 189:74 (2022, 333:1, eff. Sept. 6, 2022; not law on this date); RSA 91-A:2, I (2016 codification)

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